H.H. TAMAL KRISHNA GOSWAMI
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(Referred to as Srila Gurudeva) - November 19, 2000

 UPDATE: Srila Gurudeva visited Dallas on November 15, 2000. After the long flight he took prasadam and gave a two and one half hour darshan at the home of his disciples Radha Vinode dasa and Indra Nilamani dasi, enlivening the devotees after a long absence from America. On Friday, November 17th Gurudeva flew to Nashville, Tennessee, to participate in the annual convention of the AAR, the American Academy of Religion, the biggest such event in the world. He participated on a Hindu/Buddhist panel and interfaced with many leading scholars.  After returning to Dallas, on Thursday November 23rd, the American “Thanksgiving Day,” Srila Gurudeva initiated 12 disciples.

 In recent months he has concentrated on his academic work and has not often visited temples. However he has associated with god brothers passing through England such as H.H. Gunagrahi Swami, H.H. Rtadvaja Swami, H.H. Giridhari Swami and others. In this newsletter, we will present the first part of a transcript of Gurudeva’s talk given at the Hungary farm on this year’s Vyasa-puja celebration for Srila Prabhupada. This transcript will continue in future newsletters, and we eagerly look forward to reports from devotees in America on Gurudeva’s activities in academic and devotional circles.

 

Lecture by His Holiness Tamal Krishna Goswami

-Srila Prabhupada’s Glorious Vyasa-puja Day-(Part I)

New Vraja Dhama, Hungary - August 24, 2000

I offer my respectful obeisances to the lotus feet of Sri Sri Radha-Shyamasundar and Their associates on this glorious day of the anniversary appearance of His Divine Grace, Om Visnupada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacarya Sri Srimad A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

 Their Lordships are stationed at the lighthouse at Govardhana at Dhangati, with the temple of Dhany Raya behind them. Since Govardhan is one of the highest spots in Vraja, so the lighthouse is properly situated there. Beneath Their feet are the guru parampara—Srila Jagannath dasa Babaji Maharaj, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Gaura Kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura and our beloved Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON’s Founder-Acarya. Srimati Radhika and Shyam are pulling a rope, which is attached to the bow of the ship of ISKCON. [On] Srila Prabhupada’s Vyasasana we see him sitting upon a ship.

 For those of you who will listen to this tape [or read the transcript] in the future and are not sitting here, I am not speaking figuratively—there really is a ship and Prabhupada is sitting at the helm of the ship. He has a steering wheel before him with the globe of the earth by his left side, and he is piloting the ship around the world. The ship has two nets that are hanging from its bow. On those nets are many persons who are climbing aboard from the ocean of material existence. The ocean is very turbulent and full of dangerous sharks, whose names are written on their sides; Karma-kanda, Mayavada, Apasampradaya, Sahajiya and Sunyavada. There are also some unfortunate figures looking as if they are hopelessly drowning. But many have climbed up the nets that have been extended into this ocean, and they are being pulled up into the boat.

 On the bow [front] of the boat stand their Lordships Sri Sri Dayal-Nitai Gaura-Hari very magnificently. There are various personalities very firmly situated in the boat. We can see them cut out in figures, many of our stalwart ISKCON soldiers who are Srila Prabhupada’s assistants. We see His Holiness Sivarama Swami, His Holiness Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, His Holiness Sripada Puri Maharaja and Their Holiness’s Jayapataka Swami, B B Govinda Maharaja, Indradyumna Maharaj and Gour Govinda Maharaja. Also, many, many other Vaisnavas, whose names are too many to mention here, are all situated nicely within the boat. This is a very deep and meaningful presentation. From my limited perspective, I have said to Sivarama Swami, that I think this is the most outstanding darshan I have ever had. (loud, enthusiastic applause). I guess that means everyone agrees.

 The Deities are holding banners with important mantras about surrender, as well as flags with ‘Jaya Prabhupada’ on them. This is really what is happening. This is the truth, the Absolute Truth. Radha-Shyamasundar and their associates are pulling the ship of ISKCON with Srila Prabhupada at its helm--with the Srimad Bhagavatam, which now has written on it “Mariner’s Chart,” directing how to steer the ship. Yesterday His Holiness Puri Maharaja [from Scotland] glorified Sivarama Maharaja, and just as Sivarama Maharaja has always been able to reveal to us here the spiritual world of Goloka, so, I think he is also revealing to us the spiritual world of Guruloka. Because without understanding guru, how could he understand Krishna?

 I take the dust of all the Vaisnava’s feet, my god-brothers and god-sisters and all the Vaisnavas. I pray that you will enable me to speak something appropriate, although it is impossible to fully speak the glories of Srila Prabhupada. May Ananta Sesa give me strength and sufficient tongues to glorify Srila Prabhupada’s wonders.

 I am going to speak from the twenty-six qualities of a pure devotee. I thought it appropriate to show how Prabhupada does not have any of the twenty-six qualities of a pure devotee [as will be explained]. I will try my best, on the strength of Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakura, to say everything opposite, in a way to glorify Srila Prabhupada. That means that Srila Prabhupada is crowned with all the twenty-six opulences or qualities of a pure devotee, but he is such a multi-faceted personality that even if you speak the opposite of these twenty-six qualities—you will still find him to be glorious.

 Just like the first quality is to be merciful. We remember one of Prabhupada’s disciples, an assistant  Sanskrit translator, approached Prabhupada after becoming very learned, having associated with so many similarly elevated persons. As a disciple of Prabhupada he approached Prabhupada and declared, ‘I pray to you that you give me the blessing to find a real spiritual master.’ Prabhupada blessed him by saying, ‘I bless you that in sixty thousand births, you will not meet a guru.’ This appears to be the opposite of mercy. But actually, we have to recall that one of Lord Caitanya’s associates was banished from His association. Sri Mukunda Prabhu, who was banished from Lord Caitanya’s association, was going to take his own life. Finally Lord Caitanya was asked is there any time when you will ever see him again. He said it is going to be many, many births before he is allowed to see Me again. Then Mukunda danced in happiness saying, ‘I am all right; with that hope I can stay alive.’ Considering the level of offense this disciple committed, Srila Prabhupada actually showed he was very merciful.

 There are many other ways in which it is possible to say the opposite of what we normally consider mercy. I was sleeping on the porch of that little hut in Mayapur—the first hut. Prabhupada was sleeping inside and two or three of us were sleeping on the porch (we had no other buildings in Mayapur at the time). Suddenly I felt someone kicking me and I pushed his foot away. Again they kicked me. Then I woke up and it was Prabhupada kicking me! He said, ‘You are snoring.’ I said, ‘I don’t snore, Prabhupada.’ He said, ‘You are snoring; go away from here. You are disturbing my translation.’ So then I had to go and find some place to sleep. I found some steel rods from the construction, put some straw on them and went to sleep there.

 So, in appearing to not be merciful, Prabhupada did many merciful things. Just like the way he would call all of the impersonalists, jnanis, mundane scholars, all rascals. So many harsh words! [But] this was his mercy. In showing the opposite quality he actually demonstrated the real meaning of this word.

 The next quality is humility. There is an opposite statement Prabhupada says about how he feels proud. He said, ‘When I think of my disciples, my chest swells with pride.’ Another time, when we were preparing to go to India in 1970, we were in Tokyo. At that time there was an attack on our movement by his god brothers, who were trying to minimize Prabhupada and take over his position. Because I was his GBC for India, he had just made the GBC body a month before this. He was preparing me to deal with his god brothers, so he told me ‘When they challenge that your guru should not take the name Prabhupada, you ask them how many miles have you traveled?  How many temples have you opened? How many books have you printed?’ ‘That is why my guru is called Prabhupada, because he has done so much more than you!’ Prabhupada said I should not say these things, but the facts should be known.

 Before he formed the GBC body Prabhupada was already planning to make 12 GBC members. He received a letter from one his god brothers: ‘We are ordering you to come back to India because you have made an independent society! We should sit together and decide what should be done.’ Prabhupada told me to write back saying, “We agree to come to the meeting where there are twelve members, but eleven of them will be my disciples and me because we are preaching in 11/12 of the world. Because you are all locked up in India, you can select one of you to represent you all.’ So Prabhupada showed his pride in so many different ways.

 Truthful! There were times when Prabhupada showed what would appear to have been a very opposite quality to truthfulness. One time, he was holding a bank account with the Bank of America and we were in Los Angeles. The bank made an error and issued a cheque twice for $20,000. They pointed out that the error had been made and could we please return the money. Prabhupada refused! Then the Vice President of the bank sent Prabhupada a letter in which he explained [the bank’s position] according to Prabhupada’s books; he quoted:

          isavasyam idam sarvam    

yat kinca jagatyam jagat

tena tyaktena bhunjitha

ma grdhah kasya svid dhanam

 

Everybody has their just allotment, and you should know what is your just allotment and not want more! (Prabhupada says this in the purport). So he quoted Prabhupada’s own words and said, ‘You should be only taking what is yours rightly.’ [However] Prabhupada was unwavering: he did not budge. How can we justify this? Generally Prabhupada was of the opinion that we should follow the laws of the land. But sometimes, in the mood of Krishna and Balarama he would say, ‘Who cares for the laws of Kamsa!’ So he would [sometimes] do things which appear to be untruthful.

 He asked his book distributor His Holiness Tripurari Maharaja, ‘When you go and sell books in the Los Angeles airport, what do you tell people? Tripurari explained that one lady had approached him and asked if the book would solve the energy crisis. He said, ‘Yes it will; it has the solution to the energy crisis.’ Prabhupada laughed about this and said that when a man is a salesman he has to do anything to sell his product. (I say all of these things but warn everyone not to necessarily imitate these behaviors)

 Now it says that a pure devotee is equal to all, but we didn’t find Prabhupada at all to be equal to all. As a loyal follower of Krishna he perfectly upheld the verse where Krishna says samoham sarva bhutesu, I am equal to all living beings, but those who are surrendered unto Me I take special care. Srila Prabhhupada similarly was not equal to all—I already told you how he dealt with one offensive disciple. Similarly Prabhupada made many comments which would appear to show a certain inequality.

 For example, women! In ISKCON today women are making a big push for equal rights. Of course, for everything done in ISKCON people always take the name of Prabhupada, in order to get the stamp of approval for what they want to say. The ritviks say their philosophy is Prabhupada’s philosophy; the gurus say their philosophy is Prabhupada’s philosophy; the womens’ libers say their philosophy is Prabhupada’s philosophy and the male chauvinists claim their philosophy is Prabhupada’s philosophy. Poor Prabhupada! Prabhupada said it’s just like Krishna: when a thief goes out to steal he prays to Krishna. [Yet] when the rich man goes out he also prays, ‘Please protect my house from the thief.’

 So I will give some instances to show that Prabhupada was not equal to women. I was sitting with Prabhupada at 7 Bury Place. He told me that if Yamuna Devi, the wife of the temple president, had been a man she that would have been the Temple President. In other words she was more qualified than her husband was, but because she was a woman he could not make her the Temple President. Later on, I was handed three slips of paper on which the names of different persons were listed when Prabhupada was preparing to form his first GBC. They finally found these three pieces of paper in the archives. They are in Prabhupada’s own hand writing on the backs of envelopes. On one he lists three women and on another he lists two women. On the third list I got he lists only eleven men, and when he formed the GBC there were no women. Now, he wouldn’t allow a woman to be a Temple President, so how could he allow a woman to be GBC? I am just showing how [in this case] he wasn’t equal.

 Another way that he was not equal is that after a while very rarely did women accompany him on the walk. Now the women claim that this was because the sannyasis (I don’t know which sannyasis) were pushing the women away and not allowing them to have an equal right. Without prejudice (which means I always have the right to deny this statement), there may be some truth to that, but Prabhupada allowed it. Prabhupada was not so unaware of the fact that there were no women on the walk; he could have said, “Where is so and so, where is so and so.” He did used to say “Where is so and so,” but that “so and so” was always some sannyasi or senior man. So, I don’t think that Prabhupada was equal to all; now I will show you how he really wasn’t.

 First of all, when the movement was just beginning, he showed far more equality to the women—when there were no sannyasis in the movement he had a woman secretary, Govinda dasi… His first secretary was a woman. He had ladies cooking for him and the women used to come walking with him just as much as the men. Yamuna used to lead the kirtans. Yamuna and Himavati used to speak at public lectures. But gradually, as the movement became more [developed] he tried to establish what you may call Vedic culture—and that’s where he started to make his distinctions. In his mind he made no distinctions.

 One time in 1977 Prabhupada asked me, “Where is…Upendra?” and I said, “He’s cooking in the kitchen.” Prabhupada then said, “Who else is in the kitchen.” I answered, “Sruti Rupa (the wife of Abhirama),” and Prabhupada said, “Oh, that is not very nice; they are in the same room together.” He said, “I am above all these things now—I am an old man—but you are all young sannyasis: you must be very careful.” So he did these things to protect the sannyas ashram and in general to uphold Vedic etiquette.  It has nothing to do with any statements on an Absolute level. A classic example is where Prabhupada always maintained women are “less intelligent, 32-ounce brains,” and quoting his professor from Scottish Church’s College. But he said that a devotee woman is not the same. So we have to judge these statements.

 Having said all of that, I will make a personal disclaimer. There are two ways to view how to go forward with ISKCON: one is the conservative view and the other is the liberal view. The conservative view is to do everything as much as possible the way Prabhupada did it. The liberal view is to interpret everything according to the present. I’m speaking only for myself; I’m not speaking for the other persons sitting here. But my personal view is to be much more inclined to have to constantly interpret what Prabhupada said at the time he said it—but bringing it into the present context—because I believe that Prabhupada himself changed many things over time. And he himself would have interpreted his earlier things to see if they were still appropriate.

 Faultless, that someone has no faults. (Now we have to show that Prabhupada had some faults!) Well, I can first of all say what Prabhupada told us about mistakes, which appear to be made by the guru. He said, “Any fault or mistake that happens is your fault,” (as the disciple) “and anything that is done right is my credit as the guru.” He said, “This is how a disciple must think.” Now what apparent faults can there be?

 I can say many things. I was sitting with Prabhupada (I think I may have told you last year); it was 1969. Prabhupada was eating a lot of chapatis, and I personally counted that he ate thirteen chapatis—because I was sitting in the kitchen. His cooks made very light chapatis; you can eat them in three bites, and I was counting them. So one time we were sitting in Bombay and I reminded Prabhupada of how he had eaten thirteen chapatis. He said, ‘I never ate thirteen chapatis!’ I said, ‘Prabhupada, I counted the thirteen chapatis,’ and he said, ‘You counted wrong!’ Then I said, ‘Yes, Prabhupada, I must have counted wrong.’ 

 Of course there were his little faults in pronunciation, which he would always turn into a very nice meaning. In San Francisco there was a shop opposite or caddy-corner to the temple. It was a donut shop, and Prabhupada would always call it ‘do nots.’ Or he would use the word, ‘skyscrapper’—little faults in speech that endeared him to us. It’s not so easy to find faults like this. I’ll give another [example] of what I thought was a fault, the way he pushed forward book distribution, especially in O’Hare airport [in Chicago]. O’Hare is an Irish name. Prabhupada said O Hare (as pronounced in the maha mantra) and he told Tripurari Swami to go to the airport manager and to suggest that the airport be re-named, ‘O Hare Krishna Airport’ (they hated us at that airport; the managers disliked us because we were disturbing all the passengers by selling books). And right in their face, Tripurari, the main culprit of the book distributors, had to tell the manager, ‘My guru says that you should re-name your airport O Hare Krishna Airport.’  

 I once went to Prabhupada after he had told me to go to China. I must have been still feeling a little hurt from the whole incident. [Gurudeva has explained that the assignment to go to China was a shock because his preaching at that time in America was going very well, yet suddenly and unexpectedly he was asked to go to a totally unknown and foreign place]. So I asked Prabhupada, ‘We’re getting so much bad publicity from this book distribution, because you are pushing so strongly. Don’t you think it would be better that we try to have some different techniques and don’t be so aggressive on book distribution?’ Prabhupada became very angry and he said, ‘If I could do it again I would do everything exactly the same way. I would not change the techniques.’ The women went to Prabhupada. They said, ‘You are telling us we should be chaste and humble, but you’re pushing us to distribute books!’ And he told his women disciples that he came to America as an aggressor, and they should be very aggressive.

 Anyway, some slight fault, and there are other “faults” also [which are really not faults in the highest sense]. Like some devotees have pointed out that Prabhupada made mistakes with particular words in the books, perhaps, or some inaccuracy or contradiction—where he says one thing in one place and contradicts himself in another. Well, I think one answer to this is very simple. Prabhupada was once asked, ‘Do you know everything that’s in the minds of your disciples?’  Prabhupada answered, ‘I’m not God.’ So what do you expect? How is it possible for someone to translate 80 four hundred page books and write commentaries; open 108 temples and initiate 5,000 to 10,000 disciples—and not contradict himself in some place in a book? Prabhupada is faultless because there was never a moment when we ever observed that he was not purely and perfectly devoted to Krishna; there was never a fault in his devotion to Krishna.  

 Magnanimous: now we have to show how Prabhupada was miserly [the opposite of magnanimous]! It is difficult to speak this way, a greater challenge. How was Prabhupada apparently miserly but actually magnanimous? [Gurudeva consults his god brothers] Puri Maharaja has given many good examples. Yes, Prabhupada was very frugal, and frugality may be considered a type of miserliness. Frugality means to save in any way possible. When I became Prabhupada’s secretary I noticed that he was being cheated in certain bank accounts of a few paisas [a few pennies or less], and Prabhupada insisted that I write the managers of each of the banks telling them they had cheated him of only a few paisa. And when Surabhi Maharaja needed a check to keep the construction going, Prabhupada asked which would be cheaper, to send through the bank or through the post? And to save a few paisa he sent it by post.

 Mild and clean: what have I gotten myself into? Now I have to show that Prabhupada was not mild. Well, there are many examples of Prabhupada’s …what’s the opposite of mild?  Harsh.  There are many, many harsh statements by Prabhupada. As I said earlier he criticized anyone who was not upholding pure bhakti, suddha bhakti. He was very harsh with his god brothers. In the Caitanya Caritamrta he criticised them. Even his most respected and dear god brother, Sripad Sridhar Maharaja, when he heard this asked the BBT that they should remove such statements (after Srila Prabhupada departed). So harsh, but why? Because he felt they were criticizing his mission."

 Sometimes Prabhupada could say some very cutting remarks. He could make a disciple feel… I remember I was serving him so sincerely and I made one mistake (I made many mistakes but that day I made one mistake), and he just looked at me and shook his head and said, ‘There’s nothing inside your head. It is just zero inside.’ So then he would say, ‘You have cow dung instead of a brain.’ You know, sometimes disciples can’t take any criticism from their guru. I don’t know what they think Prabhupada was like. He could be very cutting.

 And now, what about clean? Was Prabhupada unclean? Well, one thing is that cleanliness begins in the mind. Prabhupada used to astonish people with his knowledge of the world. Just like you would think that a sannyasi should not talk about prostitutes. Prabhupada once sat there and told us about the Delhi prostitutes. In Hindi he said a ‘Delhika ladhu,’ which is a nickname for a prostitute. So that doesn’t sound like the mind of a sannyasi, [he] should not be knowing these types of things. Another time Prabhupada was telling me about the taste of fish, and he said that when you make this preparation baddhi chatri, he described it, a Bengali preparation… if you put some fish in it, it really becomes tasty. So I asked Prabhupada, ‘How do you know how tasty it is?’ Prabhupada said, ‘It is said like that. I’ve heard it said.’ He was not actually contaminated by such things.

 We were on a train going from Calcutta to Allahabad. And so Prabhupada said, ‘Let’s have breakfast.’ It was a night train. Then we got up and took breakfast. Prabhupada’s servants were serving and eating, and so then they wanted to go wash their hands and Prabhupada said, ‘When you’re eating like this you don’t worry about that. Just serve more prasadam.’ Little, little ways in which he violated what would normally be considered cleanliness. Why did this not affect Prabhupada? Because his mind is always absorbed in love for Krishna. I was told by one of Prabhupada’s god brothers, his sannyas guru Kesava Maharaja used to take bath once in thirty days—and [yet] his body never smelled bad.

 When someone is a pure devotee they get all kinds of miraculous qualities. And Prabhupada is a topmost pure devotee; these things did not in any way make him unclean.

 (End of Part I)

Recipe Section: Krishna Kripa’s Quick Peanut Butter Fudge

This recipe may not have entirely originated with Krishna Kripa, Srila Gurudeva’s longtime disciple in Houston, but he has refined it for use in his cooking class at Rice University, catering and for festivals, as it can be made easily and quickly in big quantities. While for a long time the recipe usually used milk, he learned that it can also be made for Vegan catering using water instead of milk. Since for health Srila Gurudeva has to limit his intake of dairy products, he occasionally takes this quick fudge made without milk, and prefers unsalted peanut butter. (note: if you use store-bought peanut butter you cannot offer this to installed temple Deities. Store bought peanut butter works best, however, because it is more finely ground).

 2 lbs. peanut butter (either chunky or smooth is okay)

1 cup sugar (more or less sugar can be used according to taste, but the ratio of 2:1, two parts sugar to 1 part liquid, should be maintained)

1/2 cup milk or water (works either way)

 1) Heat the milk or water in a small pot that has high sides. Add the sugar and bring to a boil.

2) Best is to boil on high, but if you do, the milk or water will foam up, so make sure it doesn't go over the side of the pot.

3) Boil until the sugary liquid starts to thicken up--technically, it's when you get the "strand" effect. Usually when you see when the foaming level of the milk or liquid drops significantly, that's enough.

4) At this point, turn off the heat and quickly spoon the peanut butter into the same pot with the milk mixture and stir immediately in one direction (clockwise, counter-clockwise, etc.).

5) Quickly you should feel it thickening up. When it is mixed thoroughly and is definitely thickening, spoon it onto a cookie sheet or something like that, spread out evenly & smoothly, about 1/2 inch thick. Do this quickly before it thickens and hardens too much.

6) Let it cool, then cut into squares.

 [note: if you cook it too long it may crumble; if so you can form it into balls by hand rather than cutting into squares. On the other hand, If you don’t let it thicken enough, it won’t harden properly]

 

Radha Caran dasa

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